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Process notes for PONG:
Tom Devaney: I had written about Edwin's work in an essay for a special edition of Poets & Writers Magazine in April of 1999. Sometime after that Jordan Davis suggested I interview Edwin on the publication of his book Fractured Humorous (subpress). I said I'd like to do that and Edwin suggested an email conversation, which was something I resisted at first. I disliked email for this kind of interaction. I also thought that one part of Edwin, and his work, that I loved so much was his vibrant and physical animation. While we went ahead with the email conversation I tried to make the medium a part of the conversation as much as possible. What followed became the on-going and sporadic conversation: Pong. The height of the conversation lasted over a year, but in many ways pot-shot volleys continue on to this day. The conversation was also adapted into a shadow puppet show called Pong Live, which Edwin and I performed on June 9, 2000 with the Animated Neck and Stars in Brooklyn, NY.

Edwin Torres: PONG came out of that one conversation everyone has with someone "Hey, let's get together...okay let's!" and then you never do. After a few months of this back and forth game, Tom offered to do an interview and I wanted to do something less formal than that. The PONG presented here, ongoing to this day, is in 30 hits. #1-3, 20 & 22 have been published in the journal Chain, Issue 9. Enjoy…

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From: Tom Devaney
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:59 PM
To: Edwin Torres
Subject: PONG as metaphor

Edwin. Glad I was able to get to Tonic last week 5/4/00 to see & hear you-that night, it was good to be in the same place while you were performing. I didn't try to focus on anyone aspect, but just let it happen-drums, dj, & you honoring the rain and the room. I'm willing to try a conversation with you here, though my instinct is to meet and talk first to get a physical sensory response which we can build-on in an brick-by-brick TOM, EDWIN, EDWIN, TOM email exchange-I'm open. I am wondering if you think email is a callous medium or if it's just that I use it callously? Anyway, just as no one enters a Pollock canvas, because it's a painting not a door-or what people say is-that no one enters a Pollock canvas visually in any one place, so we may place our conversational ball wherever we want. Point.

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From: Edwin Torres
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 5:44 PM
To: Tom Devaney
Subject: PING!

Tom

instinct sez physical meeting builds presence-email

meetings usually callous-HOWEVER-if we know who

we're dealing with-familiarity listens to untold

nuances in speech patterns-sarcasms ignite untold

tellings--keyboard becomes ear hole into which dark

ages collect--dust bowls inna earhole...AYYYYYYYY,

matre morto sans le carryoutta!!!

yeh, dug Tonic gig...glad you came-finished way too

short 'cuz DJ wasn't 'feelin'' it-I think it's cuz

he's not used to improvising...and although I did feel

a lag halfway through...it isn't uncommon to find the

energy go low in an improvisation as improvisors

search for each others' energy, etc. thought it was

just cooking when we stopped-but-was DJ's first

improv with any musician and SEAN is master

improvisor...knowing when to come in and out yet

always maintaining presence...

something I try and attain in writing-attaining

without trying--therein lies the blur...

speaking of...physical presence is currently at

work--don't know how often I'll be able to respond

immediately-but let's keep up correspondence...as

happenstance allows...your shot!

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From: Tom Devaney
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:42 PM
To: Edwin Torres
Subject: Limitation as plus factor

Edwin

Counterbalancing the medium's (not so immediate, not so immaterial) limitations against itself would be interesting to do-if we're not already doing that. The mismatch between screen, keyboard, music, our brains. What you call "keyboard becomes ear hole into which dark/ages collect-dust bowls inna earhole..." I call Screenesthesia--in the right ear-hand-eye-brain human, igniting "untold tellings" on the everyday face of our computers. I hope to match our mismatches into a new sense, instead of only a nuisance.

Concerning the performance (not the one here, but at Tonic). Yes, I agree it's not "uncommon to find the energy go low in an improvisation as improvisors search for each others' energy," I thought you were not fighting yrself, the room, the energy but working with it-it was mellow.

striking match, my best,

T.Devaney

p.s. I'm going to go to the show "Volume" at PS 1 sometime soon. (Some of it curated by Elliott Sharp). There is something about what is called sound installations, sonic drawings and sound art that connections to your work.

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From: Edwin Torres
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 1:48 PM
To: Tom Devaney
Subject: Re: mismatches & misfires

wow! do you see holy encryption at end of previous

email! holy message truncation! holy repetition

batmanman! code talks for us who have no talking...no

otherworldliness of words not worlds

how worlds invented for others worlds to live in--like

day of many days, environment concludes

cheesebombs...lunch hour for michevious wordsters

a word on mismatches...lighting misfires no

doubt--context in land of notext begets match, point &

game! In mistakes is where I choose to live, is

mistakes a new land? more likely just corner of

existing plains to each one's escape...is escape a

choice to live?

off now...to herrible torrible work-monster. future

responses may not be as quick...but you know that...

Pong!

Edwin

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From: Tom Devaney
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 5:02 PM
To: Edwin Torres
Subject: commitment to the gradual

Edwin,

"Message truncated," is the uncluttered in-between of our talk. As you say, "code talks for us who have no talking..." I like that because we're not talking, we're writing, but I am, or do follow your larger point. All that wild, sprawling and (for the most part) meaningless code-unintentional by-product. (What we didn't or can't, what he said, what we said we said.) Edwin, while playing PONG each hit increases the speed to the blip-ball, which I catch in the speed & rhythm of your "context in land of notext begets match, point & game!"

a dizzy day,

Tom

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